<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post7543933568029828932..comments</id><updated>2008-02-04T23:50:42.317-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Bright Lights After Dark: Plainview as Nosferatu: "I Drink it Up!"</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/feeds/7543933568029828932/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html'/><author><name>Bright Lights Film Journal</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07283371703328315147</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post-6523707285543591121</id><published>2008-02-04T23:50:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-04T23:50:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The ardors and arbors of Ardis were of course grea...</title><content type='html'>The ardors and arbors of Ardis were of course great fun until my little girl started tarting around on me with every available squire in the county, but that's another memoir. So Deadwood's a good one huh? I've wanted to see that but never got around to it, now I shall. You're definitely right that TWBB, has no sense of community. All through the movie I kept wondering, do all these people find a creepy fake like Eli charming, like for real? But then I just figured it was one of those movie things like Dustin Hoffmann supposedly being convincing as a woman in Tootsie. I agree that Anderson isn't really similar to Altman either, he's far too much a control guy, and a good deal more campy. But I must say I'm not a big fan of Mccabe. To me it just seemed like a conventional sort of show-down western, only in slow-motion, so that you didn't much care at the end, like Thieves Like Us, and also that Chandler one, where the improvisation was so lame you could actually see Elliott Gould groping for a way to get to the point of the scenes before your eyes. I really think that technique of Altman's was over rated (except for in his freakiest poetic ones like Three Women and Images, and I liked the Grisham one quite abit too); not to mention Nashville is a numbing satire where the figures are the most condescending cartoons I've ever seen. What he did to Loretta Lynn...it was unspeakable. But back to TWBB--I don't think the community thing's the only problem. Mostly it's in the funky structure of the story, along with DDL's performance, which is mesmerizing but seems obscure unless you think out the thing pretty carefully. I was always just getting why characters had done what they had several scenes afterward. And why do you think all the interesting stuff with Plainview's child was done so eliptically? Surely it was more important and would have been far more dramatic than the silliness with Eli Sunday.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default/6523707285543591121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default/6523707285543591121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html?showComment=1202197800000#c6523707285543591121' title=''/><author><name>joe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09490076604993120191</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post-7543933568029828932' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/posts/default/7543933568029828932' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post-2451255045357047366</id><published>2008-02-02T14:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-02T14:54:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks, VanVeen.  (How's Ada?)  If you want to see...</title><content type='html'>Thanks, VanVeen.  (How's Ada?)  If you want to see a great old-time tycoon, try Gerald MacRaney as George Hearst in &lt;I&gt;Deadwood&lt;/I&gt;.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The comparison to &lt;I&gt;Deadwood&lt;/I&gt; points to a major absence in TWBB, the lack of any real feeling of community.  Unlike &lt;I&gt;Deadwood&lt;/I&gt; or &lt;I&gt;McCabe and Mrs. Miller&lt;/I&gt; where every member of the frontier community has a life of his or her own, the members of the community in TWBB are as if seen by Plainview - stick figures. The film is dedicated to Altman, but it has less in common with Altman's &lt;I&gt;McCabe and Mrs. Miller&lt;/I&gt; (the story of a community) than with his &lt;I&gt;Secret Honor&lt;/I&gt; (the story of a raving solipsist).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default/2451255045357047366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default/2451255045357047366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html?showComment=1201992840000#c2451255045357047366' title=''/><author><name>C. Jerry Kutner</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10901663264449536920</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='06523960502556752395'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post-7543933568029828932' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/posts/default/7543933568029828932' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post-5524588832289431463</id><published>2008-01-29T00:43:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-29T00:43:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>I think that's an interesting way of seeing the fi...</title><content type='html'>I think that's an interesting way of seeing the film, but I also think the movie is really too mal-formed, possibly deliberately, to read in any comprehensive way--yet I would argue the film followed more of a Secret Sharer doubles fable than your notion of the Vampire flick. Still, you've got a point, there is something horrory to the thing: the reverend Sunday character looked more like a moon faced refugee from Children of the Corn than he did a figure from the period. What's so confusing to me is that he film acts as if some major kind of tug of war were going on between Plainview and Sunday when Sunday is hardly in Plainview's league at corruption, lopsiding the film's structure. At the end Plainview projects his own sins onto the boy and then beats him to death as the ultimate act of self-loathing. But Anderson's scripting is slightly off, maybe even way off, and he doesn't make everything connect dramatically as it ought to. Another thing that goes with your suggestion, though, is that obviously you can read the Plainview character as at some point having lost his "soul". Yet you're never sure precisely why the film eventually focuses all its psycho drama on the reverend, who as I said before is no competion for Plainview whatever, whose really a distraction to the excellent subject of the booming oil industry's infancy, which just winds up getting used as a kind of vague interior symbol. Also, I think making the reverend a total phony was too easy. The end would have had much more power if we had sensed the boy really believed in all that churchy hick silliness but had been undone by the foibles that bring the best of us down; Plainview, self-justifying con extraordiaire that he is, might then have shown that he felt, wrongly, validated in his view of everything and everybody being as corrupt as he is, and so taking special pleasure in humiliating Sunday. That way we might have understood that what he resented was the boy's ability to have faith in something that isn't just material. I mean after all, excepting getting into some debt Eli's faults are fairly slim for all the creepy sliminess of his character's aura. At the end it seems like we're supposed to feel that Sunday and Plainview are in some way equivalent and that the boy is somehow a little bit worse and so basically gets what's coming to him. It's a ludicrous idea but explains the character's dehumanized reptillian mincing ministerialness and, in my opinion, is drama being used to make cheap self-satisfied faux-statements whose essential falsness may be why people are so confused by exactly what is meant. Plus, I'm fed up with Anderson's rhythms, always and finally falling back on explosions of violence which aren't really logically motivated by the material so as to jack up the audience's emotions and create the illusion of a climax. Plainview may be finished at the end, but I felt like the dramatization of an ambitious old-style tycoon was still waiting to be dramatized.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default/5524588832289431463'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/7543933568029828932/comments/default/5524588832289431463'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html?showComment=1201596180000#c5524588832289431463' title=''/><author><name>vanveen</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.brightlightsfilm.com/2008/01/plainview-as-nosferatu-i-suck-it-up.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30026901.post-7543933568029828932' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30026901/posts/default/7543933568029828932' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>